It's the 49th episode of ONE HEAT MINUTE, the podcast examining Michael Mann's 1995 crime epic HEAT minute by minute (48:00-49:00). Host Blake Howard is joined by a member of one of cinema and fantasy literature's most famous heist crews, actor Stephen Hunter, Bombur from The Hobbit Trilogy. Blake and Stephen take some great digressions to talk about acting craft, a mutual obsession with "The Trip" series and finally that a young Ian McKellen could totally play Chris Shiherlis.

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